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George Henderson - Branch Secretary

 

 


 

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The Edinburgh RMA Branch meets on the last Thursday of each month at 2 pm at the Beaverbank Business Park. 

The T&G RMA Biennial Delegate Conference took place in London on Wednesday 27 March, presided over by Jack Jones, and covered important issues such as the National Health Service, Community Care, and Pensions to be linked to average earnings.  The Off Peak Free Concessionary Travel burning question is also being followed up with the Transport Ministers for Scotland and England respectively, Iain Gray MSP and the Rt Hon John Spellar MP.  BDC Policy is for a Uniform Scheme for Pensioners and the Disabled with no boundaries throughout the UK. 

The Branch attendance is normally open to anyone and to new ideas and suggestions.  We also share information regarding Pensioners Benefits and Entitlements. 


Campaign for boundary-free nationwide free travel for pensioners and the disabled

Read extract from Letter from the leader of the City of Edinburgh Council
Councillor Donald Anderson and extract from his report

Report of T&G RMA deputation meeting at city chambers with leader of Edinburgh City Council 25 September 2002

Scotlands pensioners deserve first class travel -T&G

To enable a meaningful and constructive meeting, background correspondence and the RMA Press Release that gave full details of issues to be raised had been forwarded to the Leader of The Edinburgh City Council, Donald Anderson prior to the meeting.

The RMA, which has 170 branches across the UK and has pensioners' champion Jack Jones as its President, continues to campaign for boundary-free nationwide free travel for pensioners and the disabled. The T&G RMA Deputation for the Meeting with the Leader of the Council consisted of, Chairman Robert Armour, Treasurer Frank McKenzie, Executive Member John Crichton, (Former leading Edinburgh Councillor who introduced the first Unrestricted UK free travel scheme in the seventies) and Secretary George Henderson.

Summary of the discussion that took place at the meeting:-

The deputation indicated that they were working in concert with other sister organisations and the National Pensioners Convention (NPC). They made it perfectly clear that pensioners and the disabled were grateful and appreciative of the latest concessionary travel improvements and were not attacking the Local Authority, but believed ultimately the case for Treasury funding of boundary-free nationwide free travel for pensioners and the disabled is unanswerable.
 

   
From Left to Right: Frank McKenzie, Bob Armour,
John Crichton, & George Henderson    

RMA Secretary George Henderson had already written to Transport Minister Iain Gray about the considerable disquiet arising from the Scottish Executive's new OAP Concessionary Travel Scheme, which pensioners had expected to provide free nationwide boundary-free travel throughout Scotland. The Minister advised Mr Henderson that this was a devolved matter. The Deputation felt that Scotland's senior citizens are treated as second-class pensioners compared to the superior free concessionary fare schemes in Wales, Ireland, and in particular London. Evidence was presented that In 32 London boroughs, pensioners have a "Freedom Pass" to travel on any bus, tube, or train at no cost at all anywhere in London, with no problems of Borough boundaries and no time limits after 9 a.m. This posed the obvious question; Do Scotland's senior citizens deserve anything less? There is widespread public support for a system of concessionary travel that ends disparities in local provision. The communications regarding concessionary travel schemes leave a great deal to be desired and we are seeking clarification of the City of Edinburgh Council Concessionary Travel proposals. We are also concerned about the formula used to determine funding, which needs to reflect the interests of both rural and urban pensioners, and the validity of bus companies monitoring of appropriate passenger numbers. The Deputation concluded their remarks by emphasising that their concerns could be resolved by implementation of their ultimate belief that the case for Treasury funding of boundary-free nationwide free travel for pensioners and the disabled is unanswerable. To be pursued further with The Scottish Executive.

The Council Leader Donald Anderson extended a warm welcome to the RMA Deputation and dealt with the issues raised. Explanation was given that the Bus Operators had previously subsidised 10 pence in respect of the 30 pence concessionary fare, but had now decided to withdraw this subsidy and this was the reason that the off peak charge for travel before 9.30am had to be raised by 10 pence to 40 pence. This would take effect at the introduction of the concessionary free travel scheme. The existing bus pass would continue to be valid up to the expiry date of the pass. The Deputations' view on this issue was, that apart from pensioners' with essential hospital appointments, and their having genuine concern for people requiring public transport to go to work, the majority of pensioners were unlikely to travel before 9.30am.

Regarding the questions raised about the formula used to determine funding, and the validity of the bus operators monitoring of passenger numbers, The Leader believed Edinburgh received good value. With regard to the concerns expressed by the Deputation, including the anomalies created by district-by-district schemes and the case for Treasury funding for boundary-free nationwide free travel, he accepted that the discussions on all of these matters raised were not going to be closed down. Councillor Anderson made Reference to COSLA and said he was prepared to refer our submissions to a Committee for consideration of a possible follow up with the Scottish Executive. He would be forwarding a report of our meeting as appropriate. In support of the pensioners case the Deputation submitted as evidence, extracts from the NPC Booklet "Ticket to Ride". The NPC Booklet "Ticket To Ride" by Bob Sears, had been forwarded to Transport Ministers by Mr Henderson six months ago with a covering letter on the 8th of April.

The Council Leader was advised that communications had been forwarded seeking support from MP's MSP's and Councillors. It was agreed at the Leader's request, that we would keep each other advised of our respective communications in this regard. The Deputation thanked the Leader of The Council for providing facilities for the meeting, which ended at 3pm.

 

 


From Left to Right: Bob Armour, George Henderson, John Crichton, Council Leader Councillor Donald Anderson.     


Dear Mr Henderson - Retired Members Association

I refer to the draft note of our recent meeting and confirm that I am happy with the contents. Please find enclosed a copy of my latest Leader's Report to Full Council which includes the issue on extending free concessionary travel throughout Scotland for your information. I confirm that I will raise this matter with the President of COSLA.  Thank you for joining me at the Chambers for what I feel was a very positive meeting.
Signed by Leader - the City of Edinburgh Council
Councillor Donald Anderson

Extract from Leaders Report

Transport and General Workers Union Retired Members
Association - Concessionary Travel Scheme

4.1 l recently had a very positive meeting with the Retired Members Association of the Transport and General Workers Union. The Association acknowledges that it is grateful and appreciative of the latest concessionary travel improvements. However, it believes that there is a strong case for introducing a national scheme with common standards, ultimately providing free travel for pensions and the disabled
throughout Scotland.

4.2 It may be appropriate for COSLA to investigate this issue with a view to
considering options involved for the development of a national scheme
and the implications involved. I have agreed to raise this matter with the President of COSLA and will provide more information to Elected Members and the Retired Members Association as this becomes available.                                                       

 

MEETINGS


Venue:
District Office:
21 Logie Mill,
11 Beaverbank Business Park, Edinburgh EH7 4HG

Tel: 0845 3450145

Last Thursday of each month at 2 pm

 Bob Armour is Chairman
&
Frank McKenzie is Treasurer.